Governors Cox and Shapiro Join Washington National Cathedral for Bipartisan Conversation

WASHINGTON – Utah Governor Spencer Cox and Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro join for a rare and timely conversation on the state of our politics today, the rising threat of political violence, and what it means for the future of American democracy.

In this moment of deep division, two leaders from opposite political parties will reflect on the responsibilities of leadership in moments of crisis, the dangers of extremism, and the work of building civic life rooted in dignity, safety, and hope. The conversation will be moderated by Savannah Guthrie, co-anchor of TODAY and chief legal correspondent at NBC News. Before the governors’ conversation with Guthrie, the program will open with a special panel of experts on democracy, faith, and society moderated by Cathedral Dean Randy Hollerith.

This program is presented in partnership with Disagree Better, The Wheatley Institute at Brigham Young University, and the National Institute for Civil Discourse.

WHAT: Panel discussion on democracy, faith, and civic life followed by a Bipartisan conversation with Governors Cox and Shapiro.

WHO: Dean Randy Hollerith, Washington National Cathedral
Dr. Yuval Levin, Director of Social, Cultural, and Constitutional Studies at the American Enterprise Institute
Governor Spencer Cox, Governor of Utah
Governor Josh Shapiro, Governor of Pennsylvania
Heather Gerken, 11th President of the Ford Foundation
Melody Barnes, Founding Executive Director of the Karsh Institute of Democracy at the University of Virginia

WHEN: Tuesday, December 9, 2025 from 7pm- 9pm

WHERE: Washington National Cathedral, 3101 Wisconsin Ave NW Washington, DC 20016

MEDIA: Claire Rosenwinkel, [email protected], 202.440.2210